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Stony Brook Again Demonstrates A Dangerous Lack of Logic

For years, Stony Brook Day in Albany has been an annual tradition, bringing together students and faculty for a unique opportunity to speak to their elected Legislators about issues that pertain to students and higher education in general, as well as an opportunity to get out of the classroom and take a one-day trip.   This is a trip that the university strongly encourages students to take, as a demonstration of school spirit and to prove to elected officials in Albany that students are taking a deep interest in higher education.

One would think that after so many years, the university would have had the common sense to schedule a "snow day" in the event of bad weather, seeing as this trip is held each February.  Instead, no contingency plans have been made by the university, and now, thanks to the threat of a heavy snowstorm today and tomorrow, Stony Brook Day in Albany 2005 isn't happening.

One actually begins to question the logic of this event even being held in February.  Couldn't it be held in a month when the threat of heavy snow and inclement weather is reduced?  Late March or April would be ideal times for this event.  Once again, however, the logic, or lack thereof, exercized by the university escapes us.

This also brings to the forefront another issue: that of the cancellation of class.  Two years ago, the university had a quick trigger on such matters, pre-emptively cancelling class before snow would even hit the ground.  This year, however, the university has been dangerously negligent, waiting until the very last possible moment to announce whether classes would be cancelled or not.  And in all cases so far this year, classes have not been cancelled, despite some rather substantial snowfall that led many individual professors to take the initiative and cancel class. 

For a school where over half the students are commuter students, and rely on driving or public transportation, this is especially important.  Early warning of class cancellation would allow students to plan ahead, and potentially not take the risk of driving on dangerous, snow-covered roads only to find out that their class has been cancelled.

Also, consider this: the university has a notoriously (but well-deserved) poor record when it comes to snow removal, especially on pedestrian paths.  Many paths are often not cleared sufficiently or not covered in salt, leading to very hazardous conditions for anybody who uses them.  Students and faculty alike should not have to risk injury just because the university refuses to cancel classes and cannot get its snow-clearing act together.

At the time of writing, the snow is already falling outside, the wind is already gusting to high speeds, and there is absolutely no indication from the university on whether classes tonight or tomorrow will be cancelled, just that Stony Brook Day in Albany has been cancelled.  However, at least two other area universities, Pace University and Nassau Community College, have cancelled evening classes hours ago. Why the change from a pre-emptive cancellation policy to an unreasonably strict one?  Why the lack of diligence in clearing streets and paths on campus?  Why expect commuters to drive to school tonight or tomorrow if we can't expect buses to be able to drive to Albany?  Unfortunately, once again, the administration of our university has proven that common sense, and more importantly, our safety, is a foreign concept to them.

It gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside to know that Stony Brook cares so much about its students. The snow is still falling outside my window almost 18 hours after the editorial staff posted the original editorial. The roads have yet to be plowed and all of the newscasters are saying that unless it is absolutely necessary, no one should drive. Well, apparently, Stony Brook thinks that it is absolutely necessary that we drive today, even with almost a foot of snow on the ground. Forget the fact that there have already been countless accidents on Nicolls Road and the Expressway, any number of whom could be Stony Brook students. There truly is no such thing as a snow day at Stony Brook. They should put this in all of their new student brochures. If I had known when I signed up that the school was going to care so little about the health and safety of its students, I would never have signed at the 'x'. I think it's long past time for the university to wake up to the fact that they are endangering the welfare of their students by not cancelling classes and fix their system of determining when and when not to close school.

I think we got gypped as far as snow. I think the media just blew it WAY out of proportion. It did snow, though. And it did snow quite a bit, whether it snowed as much as we thought it would or not.


Most importantly, I didnt want to go to school toay.

Stony Brook, more than any other area university, is a true commuter school in the sense that people drive there from as far away as Queens/Brooklyn to the West and the East End of Long Island. Stony Brook should take into consideration the fact that side streets have not yet been plowed, that cars need to be unburied from the snow, and that it's slow going even on roads that have been cleared, plus major accidents, and you have every reason to at least have a delayed start of 2-3 hours.

Not to mention this.... what's the logic of cancelling Stony Brook Day in Albany, if the roads are supposedely all clear? I like how Stony Brook jumped the gun on this one but waited until around 4 pm to cancel its own evening classes, by which time most commuters were already at the university anyway.

I'm not on campus right now, but I would also be curious to know how the paths and walkways on campus are faring. Stony Brook seems to not understand the concept of salt, or if they do, they only throw salt once, and let it be. Many paths are also shoveled very poorly, leaving a nice, flattened layer of snow at the bottom which turns into a sheet of ice as soon as the temperature goes below freezing. Last year, I personally knew two different students who broke bones in their legs from tripping on poorly-cleaned paths. But what am I talking about? Stony cares about our safety. So much that they're raising our tuition, cutting financial aid, and asking students to donate money out of their pockets directly to the university.

I sure pray someone from the university is reading this, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

...that Stony Brook University's administration is demonstrating a complete disregard for the approximately 50 percent of its students that commute to campus on a daily basis. I am a commuter myself and this is what the school's official website had to offer me for today's weather conditions:


Stony Brook University and Stony Brook Hospital remain open. Classes will take place as scheduled. Students, faculty, and staff are urged to use caution and keep their personal safety in mind when making any decision to travel to campus.


If my classes are taking place as scheduled, what other decision do I possibly have to make with regards to traveling to campus? If my classes are on, I have to go! Otherwise I get an unexcused absense and I miss out on vital material that will more often than not be essential to an exam or assignment due date. So basically, Stony Brook University has left me with this choice: stay at home and be sure not to be involved in a weather-related traffic accident or risk my personal safety so that I don't miss out on the classes they refuse to cancel. Thanks, guys...


Also, I agree with the comment Mike made about the cancellation of the SUNY Day in Albany trip. If the roads (many of which are winding, hilly side roads on my journey) are safe for me to travel, how come the roads (most of which would have been major highways on their journey) are not safe for a busload of students to travel? Some some consistency!


I have no problem operating my vehicle in the snow. I know how to drive. The only problem I see is that most people don't know how to drive and thus by going out I am putting myself in their incompetent hands.


I am thoroughly disappointed in the administration of Stony Brook University and I only hope that one of them reads the editorial and comments pertaining to it.

Well I dont completely agree with you guys. Usually groundskeeping personell plow TOO much. They even plow the grass. Of course, nothing is consistent. Things appear to be plowed RANDOMLY and shovelled by laborers on their cell phones. Realistically, school should not have been cancelled today. Classes through 10am should have, though, because thats when the streets are the most dangerous
Plus, whos gonna wake up even earlier for those early classes, just to dig their car out?
Anyway. I'll bring my camera today. I'll get some pictures.

In the morning I dreaded climbing out of my bed just to shovel enough snow out of the driveway so that I can get my car out, after learning that school was not cancelled. As much as I dislike having to goto a morning class with snow still drifting outside, it would have been MUCH worse if Albany Day wasn't cancelled.

I sure pray someone from the university is reading this, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

We could invite university officials to respond to Independent articles. It might even work. We could also try to interview members of the administraton and post their response. That would be interesting. Maybe that's something to talk about at a staff meeting?